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Posted: 04/Nov/2009 at 3:50pm | IP Logged Quote Kgianforti

I posted this in another thread but figured I would start my own.

Has anyone asked for help from their district with any "issue" of HSing? (ie, advanced placement classes, counseling, remedial help, anything).

I figured it was up to the district to decide if they will accommodate.


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Posted: 05/Nov/2009 at 8:07am | IP Logged Quote CNBarnes

Um, no.


The district/homeschool relationship is VERY adversarial in nature - in a nutshell, 'they' (districts) still view homeschooling in a negative light *at best*  (at worst, they see us as 'the enemy who is taking money out of their pockets').   

The other side of the coin isn't much better - most homeschoolers see that public schools are "broken" (one of the reasons most of us homeschool to begin with).  It doesn't make much sense to ask for help from the people who run the broken system.


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Posted: 05/Nov/2009 at 8:19am | IP Logged Quote Kgianforti

CNBarnes wrote:
Um, no.


The district/homeschool relationship is VERY adversarial in nature - in a nutshell, 'they' (districts) still view homeschooling in a negative light *at best*  (at worst, they see us as 'the enemy who is taking money out of their pockets').   

The other side of the coin isn't much better - most homeschoolers see that public schools are "broken" (one of the reasons most of us homeschool to begin with).  It doesn't make much sense to ask for help from the people who run the broken system.


Out of their pockets! LOL! They tend to forget we are still paying school taxes despite the "cut" in government funding because our kid isn't enrolled!

Personally, I don't have as much "beef" with public schools as some do on this board. Our #1 reason to HS is to make the Bible the center of the curriculum. Can't do that in PS!

For me, there are a few enrichment programs at our school that I wouldn't mind getting dd involved in when the time comes but I doubt they will let us.


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Posted: 06/Nov/2009 at 6:33am | IP Logged Quote Sunflower

I have not asked for help but had a friend who did.  Here is her experience.  At the time her oldest son was in high school and he wanted to take choir.  She let her son take choir at the local high school.  The son was appauled by the studentss behavior and the teacher's lack of authority.  The son wanted nothing to do with it. 

The high school did not mind having homeschoolers taking a class or two as long as the homeschooler followed the school rules as in attending five days a week and doing the work.

Some schools are receptive to us homeschoolers and some are not.  If the school is receptive and you and your child like what they have to offer, go for it.  The question I would ask myself is, "Do I want my child mixing in that type of environment?"  My answer for me is "NO!"

Let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out if you decide to allow your child to take classes through the public school.

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Sunflower wrote:

The son was appauled by the studentss behavior and the teacher's lack of authority.  The son wanted nothing to do with it. 



Hmmm... that's interesting. Was it because of the size of the class? Like too many students for the teacher to handle? Our school has about 800 total for both high school and elementary.

I personally don't think our school would open it's doors to HS students.


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Now I have mentioned before that Pa allows for HS children
to participate in certain things, though I don't know how
each school district treats individual situations. Think I
mentioned in the other thread that my hubby likes the idea
our children will be able to participate, especially in
band. (Though I hope they don't disappoint him and have no
interest)
I think our new superintendent is pretty decent to deal
with. And they did allow the homeschool co-op to perform
their play at the High School auditorium last April.
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Sunflower wrote:

I have not asked for help but had a
friend who did.  Here is her experience.  At the time her
oldest son was in high school and he wanted to take choir. 
She let her son take choir at the local high school.  The
son was appauled by the studentss behavior and the
teacher's lack of authority.  The son wanted nothing to do
with it. 



I am not surprised by this. There is such a lack of
respect. Another one of the reasons I want to homeschool.
Wow! There are so many reasons.
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Posted: 06/Nov/2009 at 9:10am | IP Logged Quote Sunflower

Kgianforti wrote:  "Was it because of the size of the class? Like too many students for the teacher to handle?"

*           ;       *           ;       *

It was because of the lack of respect that the students showed towards the teacher and the language of the students.  It was also because the teacher did not seem to care about what the students did. 

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Kgianforti wrote:
CNBarnes wrote:
Um, no.


The district/homeschool relationship is VERY adversarial in nature - in a nutshell, 'they' (districts) still view homeschooling in a negative light *at best*  (at worst, they see us as 'the enemy who is taking money out of their pockets').   

The other side of the coin isn't much better - most homeschoolers see that public schools are "broken" (one of the reasons most of us homeschool to begin with).  It doesn't make much sense to ask for help from the people who run the broken system.


Out of their pockets! LOL! They tend to forget we are still paying school taxes despite the "cut" in government funding because our kid isn't enrolled!

Personally, I don't have as much "beef" with public schools as some do on this board. Our #1 reason to HS is to make the Bible the center of the curriculum. Can't do that in PS!

For me, there are a few enrichment programs at our school that I wouldn't mind getting dd involved in when the time comes but I doubt they will let us.


Not trying to defend schools but I find a greater understanding of the "opposition" is always helpful. From our side we are still paying taxes (boy do we pay taxes). However, from their side, in most localities, funding is based on attendance. So this is a situation in which we have the worst possible parameters. We feel resentful because we are paying for services that we do not utilize while they are resentful because, yes, we actually are taking money out of their coffers by homeschooling. Not only that but even though they may have a low opinion of homeschooling, they are aware that homeschoolers are active involved caring parents so they also feel deprived of our participation and help in the PTA, fundraising, volunteers, etc. They might or might not realize that we would likely be pains in their sides (I know I would). So anyway, the "argument" that we are still paying our taxes is only truly valid to someone looking at this from a state level which is rarely the case. We also need to keep in mind that we are not the only taxpayers paying for these services and not using them - think about single taxpayers with no children, retirees, etc. Any argument that addresses why they "should" still help pay for schools also applies to us.

Now personally, I believe that government and education should be completely separated but that is a whole other discussion. I am also in favor of the Fair Tax  (http://www.fairtax.org/). My point here is to simply say that the idea that we are paying for service that we are not only not using but also actively having to pay for ourselves is not a useful one to use for a variety of reasons, many of which are valid within the context of our current tax system.




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Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 4:57pm | IP Logged Quote godsrhs

Hi,

I requested teaching supplies once and was really blessed with an abundance the first year in one distict...but in the other it was sparse.

They were kind both times but I had 2 be diligent in tracking down WHO to ask...

I have friends who get help for special issues with their kids and it seems to go ok as well....

Just my 2 cents...thanks

 



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